Star Citizen – Interstellar Pirates

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  • #1517

    dsmart
    Keymaster

    My new blog is going live in the AM. It was finished but at the last minute, something came up that legal needed me to source.Once you read it, you’ll see why.

    By the time I got around to doing that, it was already late and I was busy with other things.

    The blog will go live at this link tomorrow morning at 10AM EST

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  • #1796

    Kristoffer S
    Participant

    I have to admin I wasn’t fully paying attention to the livestream, I was too busy playing a fully working game 🙂 , but did he really promise a full PU release in 2016? not just alpha or beta or something, but an honest to god ready for market PU release in 2016?

    If he did he’s bonkers. But the sad truth of today is that alot of people, from politicians, to CEO’s to game developers are replacing “intent” with “promise”. I can fully buy his intentions are to release it in 2016, the same as any CEO’s intention is that their stocks will rise and politician that he will win this election or any new startup being “industry leading”. Call it posturing, anti-FUD or whatever you will, but noone wants to back a losing horse.

    Not saying it’s ok, just that yes it’s a promise and one that will go down as another broken promise of this project but not something that’ll convince me he’s the devil or evil schemer you’re portraying him to be.

    #1794

    dsmart
    Keymaster

    Right. I get that. But Chris Roberts has – again – gone on the record and saying the game, including Squadron 42, is going to be completed in 2016. So you agree that he continues to lie then? That’s what you’re saying if you are now saying that you expect to see everything promised by 2020.

    #1781

    Kristoffer S
    Participant

    This is why I would suck if I ever tried the stock market for real – it’s so driven by speculation and posturing and a single unsubstantiated rumor of a company having problems can sink the stock value that I just couldn’t stand it. Like the recent “crisis” a few months ago when problems in China (combined with Marting “the forecaster” Armstrong having predicted a collapse of China in late 2015) made the stock markets go bananas and I lost like 10% of my savings in a week. And then .. nothing, and now everything is back up to where it was before and I’m left wondering “what was facts and what was FUD”. And the same goes on here, CIG is posturing and promising 2.0 “soon(tm)” while Derek is speading the FUD.

    And just to be clear – when I say “I expect it in 2020 and fine with that”, I mean the full PU with the planets, landing zones and ships flyable, not SQ42 which really should be out in _aleast_ beta stage in 2016. I fully realise that’s 2 years after their Kickstarter estimate of Nov 2014 but I don’t have a problem with that. Kind of like I didn’t have a problem when Blizzard delayed “Diablo 3” for 2 more years (and took another 2 years to make it actually good).

    By the way, a tip to the webmasters of this place – the design for the forum is completely fubar on mobile devices! Replies gets indented all the time so Derek’s reply showed one character per row. And I’m not used to reading vertically, so you may want to check up on that 🙂

    #1768

    dsmart
    Keymaster

    That’s precisely the sort of rhetoric that is partially responsible for how we got here. For someone like Soren saying that it’s OK and expects it in 2020, which is five years and God only knows how many millions away, is irresponsible and laughable.

    I don’t expect the project to survive 2016, let alone last until 2020.

    #1763

    Kristoffer S
    Participant

    I have as little information to make that statement as Derek has (publically available, i.e not “trust me”) to make his prediction the company will blow up and crumble by January 6th next year.

    The only thing we have are the available facts – they have $95 million of crowdfunded money. Beyond that, according to them, they have subscriber’s money (that sponsor the YouTube videos) and sponsordeals that pays for marketing. Add to that the additional millions that is gonna roll in in the next few months and the sale of SQ42 if it comes out next year (of which they’ve already sold about 1 million copies so not sure how much more they can make off of that) … And when comparing to other major AAA titles their completely on track (I just wish they’d stop saying otherwise). But that’s if you believe everything that everyone tells you (for all we know, that crowdfunding counter may be completely bogus).

    Point is, as thing stands right now, with lack of evidence to the contrary, I’m chosing to go with the people that knows their financials, rather than Derek who has presented 1 single fact about their financials (the publically available F42 financial reports which says nothing to me).

    But you’re right, I don’t have any insider information on that. Derek might have – we don’t know.

    #1762

    Alex Grncarovski
    Participant

    lmao uhh, what?

    “Personally I expect it in 2020 – if they have the money to go on for that long, which they should.”

    What information do you have that noone else has for you to make that claim? Just curious, because it sounds like a lot of bullshit to me.

    #1761

    MDrake SC
    Participant

    Thanks to the effort in going back to fact check, the AtV 2.06 retaliator pod thing was at best an implied lie. Ben and Sandi never talked about the Sneak Peek as new footage. I called it a waste of time mainly because I hate watching that show. I do not watch INN stuff often, so I missed the Lando thing about downgrading Sneak Peek. Fact checking still eats a lot of time though, so I’d like to not do it. I’m sure the white knights are happy with this partial fact check at least. They don’t play fair when it works towards Derek or haters.

    Yes, I can tell that you are extremely in the middle. You are not the only one tired of the back and forths. I mentioned it many times in my comments in Derek’s older blogs. But since Chris is the one running SC, and Derek is just an independent blogger, I will slam CIG and Chris for every mistake or lie.

    The real stuff will only occur when Derek’s lawyers finally give the green light. That will take a long time…

    I made a minor mistake. The Lightspeed package had the 350R and the exclusive racing suit. It was changed to the origin racing suit and then removed from sale after Ben was called out on it.
    Source: https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/176005/lightspeed-package-changed-exclusive-racing-suit-to-origin-racing-suit

    I somehow forgot to mention the whole 1 of 100 landing zone thing. We only have Arc Corp. What the hell happened to Nyx?

    Still no more info on Vanduul. I do not accept the excuse of it’s a secret for story.

    I understand your point that every refund hurts SC, and you only want to refund when there is solid-hard facts that SC is in trouble or really screwing with backers. But my opinion on that is still, it might be too late when those symptoms show up.

    As long as CIG makes $3-4 million in the Anniversary Sale, and another $3-4 million in the Christmas or Holiday sale, they can run till Feb 2016. Only a major screw up, will give CIG major trouble. I think Chris wised up a little since. There is still a Prowler sale to buy an extra month.

    #1760

    Kristoffer S
    Participant

    Mdrake: It wasn’t my intention to make you waste your time because I honestly do want to know if this was another downright lie from CIG (of which there have been a few) or if it was another truth-twisting story from Derek (of which there have been a few as well).

    The “sneak peak” does indeed insunuate it’s new stuff we haven’t seen before and in my case it actually was, but I guess their standard is “stuff that may seem new”. But if you watched the Lando interview on INN you’ll understand that it was about lowering the quality of “sneak peek” because it turns out some people only watched it for that segment! “So let’s make it bad” is basically what he said.

    As you can get from the way I write, I feel stuck in the middle. I see CIG slightly fucks up, Derek is there to exaggerate, maybe twist the truth a bit and glote over it as the internet warlord he is. Derek makes a valid point and CIG delivers a 2.0 presentation that looked awesome. It just goes back and forth like this all the time. It really is annoying. I wish I could say I have no allegiance, but my high admiral status on RSI forum would make me a liar I guess. But I’m not blind, I see the fuckups they do with offering LTI again, the M50 debacle. But I’ll give you points for the lack of Vanduul though, hadn’t considered that. I’m more looking at the “we have ONE finished landing zone, out of what, 100?” and going “this is gonna be a while”. But I’m not dying of any terminal disease (other than normal aging) so I can wait a while. But I’ll be damned if I contribute to the projects demise, atleast without some good, solid facts.

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