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Judge_dolly_OG

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Re: Star Citizen Media Musings
« Reply #975 on: May 01, 2019, 07:37:32 AM »
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Re: Star Citizen Media Musings
« Reply #976 on: May 01, 2019, 08:25:15 AM »
I can't wait to read Joe Blobers rebuttal  :grin:
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Re: Star Citizen Media Musings
« Reply #977 on: May 01, 2019, 03:55:07 PM »
Yeah that article is amazing. I have a short Twitter thread about it.
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Re: Star Citizen Media Musings
« Reply #978 on: May 02, 2019, 03:49:54 AM »
Quote from: dsmart on May 01, 2019, 03:55:07 PM
Yeah that article is amazing. I have a short Twitter thread about it.

When I read the article, most of it just seemed like a fine recap where most all the points were already covered by the blogs and this forum. I guess it's good that Forbes as a major national fiscal reporting magazine has finally covered this and opened the lid of the true story to the public. Fat chance CIG/CR&SG can intimidate them to retract it like they did with the earlier Kotaku(?) article five years ago.

Yeah, the Newsweek nonsense article of CR opining on Anthem is like much of today's biased mainstream news, a joke or entertainment. Fortunately, Forbes still deals with financial reporting and their implications factually, as they did of CIG. Another good sign time is finally running out for this ponzi fiasco mess.

Per the twitter comments, I'm leaning to where CR (SG too) may get some kind of charges, if not jail time in the end. The siphoning and waste of millions has been too outrageous. And looking forward to the hidden stashes and ill-gotten luxury crap marked for clawback exposed and detailed in the future "American Greed" episode.
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Re: Star Citizen Media Musings
« Reply #979 on: May 02, 2019, 06:45:13 AM »
Quote from: Judge_dolly_OG on May 01, 2019, 07:37:32 AM
Forbes article has a bit of a different opinion to Newsweek lol.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattperez/2019/05/01/exclusive-the-saga-of-star-citizen-a-video-game-that-raised-300-millionbut-may-never-be-ready-to-play/#77e1f4215ac9

Did they not get the cheque?

These publications never like to accept their own part in hyping the games and whilst the article is Ok saying it isn't fraud is simplistic and cowardly.


Some comment on a French site re the Forbes article

https://www.millenium.org/news/331263.html
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Re: Star Citizen Media Musings
« Reply #980 on: May 02, 2019, 10:01:04 AM »
ObsidianAnt, a huge Star Citizen and space combat fan, has a video up talking about the Forbes article by Mat tRyan Perez

Star Citizen fans are frantically hammering the unsub button. :emot-lol:


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Re: Star Citizen Media Musings
« Reply #981 on: May 02, 2019, 10:02:30 AM »
Quote from: krylite on May 02, 2019, 03:49:54 AM
When I read the article, most of it just seemed like a fine recap where most all the points were already covered by the blogs and this forum. I guess it's good that Forbes as a major national fiscal reporting magazine has finally covered this and opened the lid of the true story to the public. Fat chance CIG/CR&SG can intimidate them to retract it like they did with the earlier Kotaku(?) article five years ago.

Yeah, the Newsweek nonsense article of CR opining on Anthem is like much of today's biased mainstream news, a joke or entertainment. Fortunately, Forbes still deals with financial reporting and their implications factually, as they did of CIG. Another good sign time is finally running out for this ponzi fiasco mess.

Per the twitter comments, I'm leaning to where CR (SG too) may get some kind of charges, if not jail time in the end. The siphoning and waste of millions has been too outrageous. And looking forward to the hidden stashes and ill-gotten luxury crap marked for clawback exposed and detailed in the future "American Greed" episode.

Yeah, I remember back in 2015 when The Escapist did their article similar to this one, and not even as in-depth.
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Re: Star Citizen Media Musings
« Reply #982 on: May 02, 2019, 05:03:46 PM »
Quote from: dsmart on May 02, 2019, 10:01:04 AM
ObsidianAnt, a huge Star Citizen and space combat fan, has a video up talking about the Forbes article by Mat tRyan Perez

Star Citizen fans are frantically hammering the unsub button. :emot-lol:


Shitizens...oh we love em...

In the comments , some guy with years in the industry ....

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Hello. OK so i'm gonna give a 10000000 % personal opinion here: I'm working in the game industry as a Mocap Tech / Specialist in one of the biggest game company in the world (not to name it) and in my almost 7 years that I've been working here, I have worked on 22 released games (and still working on unannounced games as I speak).

Seeing CIG struggelling with their animations (I will only speak of what I know about), that kind of scares me a bit for the release of the game. They have been working on female animations for what, 2-3 years now and it just came out. In the last 2-3 Years I had the time to release multipple tripple A games that contains tons of animaions. I never understood their approach on the mocap sessions for the gameplay (Navigations). Here, when we need gameplay animations, we shoot both genders at the same time or so, meaning that we get all we need from the start.

CIG chose to Retarget their male animations to the female rig, which is wayyyyyyyy more work than simply suiting up an actress, clean the data (tracking) and retarget the data on a female rig. You get all the proper animations, especially for the hips compared to a male hip subtile movement. Also, you have less bulkyness to fix in your animations. To me, it's a total waste of time for the employees and in the end, a loss of money, a lot of money.

In the end the game looks good but judging of what I know (animation wise), I fear all the departments are managed the same way, which might be bad for the project itself in the long term.

Again, that was my opinion, maybe i'm completly worng on their management, I'm not working there but from what I see here, I'm sceptic of the management, even more when I see stuff being reported over and over again.

But after the Shitizens descend with their idiocies at least someone defends him..


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I love how people who don’t even work in the industry are trying to tell a guy who actually physically works in game development how game development works.

You guys are making fools of yourselves. You have no expertise and you’re trying to tell an expert how to do his job.


Sound familiar ?
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Re: Star Citizen Media Musings
« Reply #983 on: May 03, 2019, 06:00:41 AM »
Yeah well, clearly that guys doesn't know anything about mocap development
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Re: Star Citizen Media Musings
« Reply #984 on: May 03, 2019, 01:36:53 PM »
Mocap is the least of this project's troubles. You'd think A.I ,networking and 30,000 bugs would top the to do list, after more JPEGs are made of course.
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Re: Star Citizen Media Musings
« Reply #985 on: May 06, 2019, 07:54:42 AM »
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Re: Star Citizen Media Musings
« Reply #986 on: May 06, 2019, 08:31:41 AM »
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Re: Star Citizen Media Musings
« Reply #987 on: May 06, 2019, 09:33:21 AM »
Quote from: Judge_dolly_OG on May 06, 2019, 08:31:41 AM
Haha it's even in the Metro! Hopefully it will make the print version this week.

Because it’s Forbes and all those cowards who wouldn’t dare print Derek Smart’s propaganda FUD, suddenly have a reason to jump on the bandwagon of a mainstream publication posting something we already knew, but which required the likes of Forbes to give credibility to.
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Re: Star Citizen Media Musings
« Reply #988 on: May 06, 2019, 09:36:03 AM »
Has Joe Blobers already been spotted on all those forums?
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Re: Star Citizen Media Musings
« Reply #989 on: May 06, 2019, 09:50:24 AM »
Quote from: dsmart on May 06, 2019, 09:33:21 AM
Because it’s Forbes and all those cowards who wouldn’t dare print Derek Smart’s propaganda FUD, suddenly have a reason to jump on the bandwagon of a mainstream publication posting something we already knew, but which required the likes of Forbes to give credibility to.

Yeah, and investigation and verifying sources claims is effort, easier to just write what Forbes have said. You may have known this already but Forbes have had to do some work to make sure they don't get sued by CIG by publishing this.

I don't doubt a lot of this is based on what you and others have already uncovered, but interesting they found the stuff out about Sandi that hasn't been made public knowledge by the "fudsters". I suppose this sort of stuff will be well known by those closer to the project though.
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