Star Citizen's Lumberyard Engine Is Doomed

[dsmart]

It all started a few days ago with this story out of E3...

Amazon Game Studios lays off "dozens"

My Twitter thread response

Then more info emerged today...

Lumberyard at heart of Amazon Game Studios' development woes

My Twitter thread response

What I said in Star Citizen – Irreconcilable Differences blog back when I wrote about the switch from CE to LY

[dsmart]

Meanwhile over there...

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/what-does-this-mean-for-the-pu

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/c23ozp/pretty_grim_news_for_star_citizen/

[dsmart]

Wall Street Journal

https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-struggles-to-advance-in-videogame-industry-11560769200

Quoted...

https://techraptor.net/content/amazon-game-studios-struggling-due-to-lumberyard-engine

[wiser3754]

I knew a thread relating purely to LumberYard's woes would be made.
I wonder how Dr Spin and the armchair engineers and programmers are gonna explain how Lumberyard's (potential) abandonment will not affect Star Citizen's development in any shape, way or form and dissuade any argument or testimony from the actual engineers at Amazon in relation to LumberYard's woes.

[dsmart]

I knew a thread relating purely to LumberYard's woes would be made.
I wonder how Dr Spin and the armchair engineers and programmers are gonna explain how Lumberyard's (potential) abandonment will not affect Star Citizen's development in any shape, way or form and dissuade any argument or testimony from the actual engineers at Amazon in relation to LumberYard's woes.

You think?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/c1wzc7/amazon_game_studios_struggling_due_to_lumberyard/

[jwh1701]

This news is going to be fun to talk about over on reddit.

[wiser3754]

You think?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/c1wzc7/amazon_game_studios_struggling_due_to_lumberyard/
[/quote]

Yep. They're out in full force. Potential conclusion;  Crytek and CryEngine sucks. Case closed.

[jwh1701]

You think?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/c1wzc7/amazon_game_studios_struggling_due_to_lumberyard/


Yep. They're out in full force. Potential conclusion;  Crytek and CryEngine sucks. Case closed.

I'm already getting PM's about how CI has fixed all the net code so there is nothing to worry about.

[David-2]

I don't get it. Amazon and CIG were so close, so interdependent.

“We’ve been working with Amazon for more than a year, as we have been looking for a technology leader to partner with for the long term future of Star Citizen and Squadron 42. Lumberyard provides groundbreaking technology features for online games. Because we share a common technical vision, it has been a very smooth and easy transition to Lumberyard.”

Chris Roberts, Cloud Imperium Games

How can it be that in the face of such a close mutually beneficial partnership that Amazon.com just leaves CIG in the lurch? This is Amazon just trashing their shared common technical vision to the detriment of both their long term futures. Must be heartbreaking for Chris.  So sad.

[GaryII]

Yep. They're out in full force. Potential conclusion;  Crytek and CryEngine sucks. Case closed.

Crytek are true winners here:

1) Got money from Amazon - company that had no experience in AAA game dev.
2) probably will get some money from CI, too.     

Morale here are cool graphics sells, its like AAA games - people watch cool trailers and then pre-order games with no gameplay...
In CI and Amazon case - they looked at graphic capabilities of Cryengine ignoring fact, that engine is build for single player games in mind not MP...   
   

[wiser3754]

Crytek are true winners here:

1) Got money from Amazon - company that had no experience in AAA game dev.
2) probably will get some money from CI, too.     

Morale here are cool graphics sells, its like AAA games - people watch cool trailers and then pre-order games with no gameplay...
In CI and Amazon case - they looked at graphic capabilities of Cryengine ignoring fact, that engine is build for single player games in mind not MP...   
   

Cryengine was never pegged for seamless large open worlds. It was always level based. I's used with level editors to make it'sworlds, not procedually generated and not to planet sized scale.

If only Chris had just stuck to the original kickstarter goals and rolled over profits from sales into further development like nornal developers.

[dsmart]

I'm already getting PM's about how CI has fixed all the net code so there is nothing to worry about.

Here's the thing. The LY license requires any code changes made by third-parties to be made public. Last time I checked, there were NO code commits to the public LY repo by CIG. That means they haven't made revisions to the LY code.

They've fixed the netcode but the server still barfs with > 25 clients. heh

[wiser3754]

They've fixed the netcode but the server still barfs with > 25 clients. heh

At least it's a step up from 12 clients back in the days of 3.0 to 3.2. But then again how many things have CIG broken along the way to get at least 25 clients working?

[Noztra]

Is he having a panic attack over Lumberyard?

[wiser3754]

BoredGamer's livelihood is tied to Star Citizen. As I haven't watched the video considering I can't stand BoredGamer and all of those videos he releases daily it wouldn't surprise me that he's put on his engineering glasses and shurgged off any concerns relating to LumberYard's woes.