More disinformation being spread by the backers. On the video comments at
One Citizen attempting to defend CIG's honor to the comment; "VelociFaptor "Literally everything about this game screams "scam". In development for 7 years and no final product."
with, "Or it’s because they are inventing technology that hasn’t existed and game development takes time. Many great games have taken 7 years to develop, like Fallout 4 for example."
Attempting to call them out I said, "@Justin Robison Which technology are they inventing that hasn't existed? Please be specific. It's not the engine that's for sure, neither is it physics. Not proc gen, or FPS mechanics. Rewriting code from an existing engine isn't "inviting new technology", it's attempting to fix a poor management decision. So again just what are they 'inventing'?"
to which I got the reply of by mansuy adrien;
"Norman Sween alright then, let me spell as much as I can remember on the fly, if you want detailed info ask separately
- dynamic physics grids with no cap on how many dynamic grids there may be.
- item container
- room system (which is actually not about just rooms)
- item container streaming (big thing)
- bind culling (also big thing)
- server meshing (very big thing)
- volumetric smoke (which is also used for nebulaes)
- dynamic scattering (cause lighting need to work with all that atmosphere and clouds and nebulae yo)
- procedural assisted generation tech (used to make stations, planets and missions, just proc gen done the right way)
- subsumption (because the universe need a head behind it)
- grabby hands ( the thing that allows you to juggle with shit and interact with the world without preset animations)
- FtoIP
- faceware recognition tech
- myRadar dynamic weather systems (for more darude sandstorm)
- dynamic damage system (I swear this thing has another name)
- dynamic sound propagation system (I also swear it also had another name)
- iner thoughts system
- interaction system (seems easy on the surface but relay not when you look at it)
- ballistic system (not implemented due to armor not being in the game right now but it is a very cool concept)
and I am probably forgetting a lot. The entire game has been nothing but brand new stuff. Even if they could have had the same results with easier to implement tech said tech would have been very restrictive, and would have pushed them down the path of elite dangerous, one where adding new core gameplay became impossible due to talking the easy way out."
I replied with, "@mansuy adrien Everything on that list is not bran new. Some of it is just generic development terms. New to you does not mean newly invented. Thing is CIG has a tendency to portray coding that needs to be worked on and finished as "new technology". Also FtoIP and faceware recognition tech was not developed by CIG, it was a third party that Chris Roberts wanted SC to be compatible with (fluff before core mechanics is a whole other argument). Having that misinterpretation is solely the backer's fault because I cannot remember a single time CR, or CIG claimed to have invented that technology themselves. Volumetric smoke is also not new. A lot of those things they've had to tweak to get working within their engine (Cryengine 3, or Lumberyard, makes litter difference as neither was made by CIG). You might argue "They've modded the engine so much that it's now Star Engine." Also not inventing new technology, although in hindsight it would of been a lot smarter to code their own engine than use CryEngine. The biggest source of disinformation from CIG is in fact from the backers, I just blame CIG for intentionally/unintentionally misleading them to make it more sensational."
Hopefully most of what I said is correct, but here is the problem. I see this so commonly echoed and when you try to refute them with "features =/= new technology" you get the classic, "You don't understand game development!" Unfortunately I don't, as a Bio Major I am pretty far from a Developer with Calculus being about the only thing we share in common. This is what CIG and CR does, attempts to portray every single feature as if they invented it. I am mildly surprised that CR and CIG haven't attempted to claim that they have invented PC hardware and OS features themselves to justify the delays which the backers would likely believe. "SQ42 is delayed due to the fact that we had to work with Intel and Microsoft to invent 64bit and SSD that you can buy HERE in order to run SC at the highest levels of fidelity!"
